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    Icon11 women visiting graveyards?

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    why did the Prophet (s.a.w) forbid women visiting the graveyards?
    and if she visited with the intention to remember death....?
    what does the sharia say...
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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    Visiting Graves

    Visiting graves is recommended in Islaam in order to help the living reflect on the shortness of this life and the closeness of the next. [See Sahih Muslim, vol.2, p.463, #2131]

    Women Visiting Graves...

    The recommendation to visit graves is general and includes women, just as the earlier prohibition included them without any special mention. Furthermore, women share in the benefits of visiting the graves.

    When the Prophet(SAW)found a woman crying in the graveyard, he did not chase her out of the graveyard, but told her not to cry. Anas ibn Maalik related that once the Prophet (SAW) passed by a woman crying beside a grave and said to her, "Fear Allah and be patient." [Sahih Al-Bukhari, vol.2, p.208, #372; Sahih Muslim, vol.2, p.439, #2013]

    After mentioning this hadith under the heading Visiting Graves, Ibn Hajar said: The [scholars] disagreed regarding women [visiting graves]. The majority held that they are included in the general permission for visiting graves [if there is no danger of corruption]. The ruling permitting women to visit graves is supported by hadith. The source of evidence in the hadith is the fact that he(SAW) did not censure the woman for sitting beside the grave, and whatever he approves is proof [of it's permissibility]. [Fat-hul-Baaree, vol.4, p.244]

    However, frequent visitation of graves by women is not permissable. Hassaan ibn Thaabit narrated that allah's Messenger (SAW) cursed women who frequently visit graves.

    Perhaps the reason for not frequenting the graves is the possible negative results of such visits like:

    The loss of some of their husband's rights due to their frequent absences from the home,

    The unnecessary public exposure of women,

    Increased depression leading to wailing and other forbidden expressions of grief.


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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    from what i know of women were fobidden to visit the graves because they use to cry at the graves later it was allowed for the women to visit the graves as it a reminder of death and women could only go if they could control their emotions

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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    you are permitted to visit but not cry there, it is actually a good thing to visit regularly remembering death and making du'a for those who have passed. gardens of peace has a sign that says old women may cry softly (also from remembering death as they are closer to it) and Allahu alim
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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    To prevent women hitting herself on her chest from emotions.

    Women do have soft heart though...

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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    I can't remember where I read this, a book called the companions of the Prophet(peace be upon him) i think... anyway I read that when someone is grieving due to the death of a loved one, what is from the heart is from Allah(swt) such as sadness and crying, but what is from the tongue (wailing loudly/screaming) and actions (beating chest) is from shaytan. and Allahu Alim
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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    It comes in Bukhaari that ''ALLAHS CURSE IN ON THE WOMAN WHO VISITS A GRAVEYARD''

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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    ???
    post exact hadith and source please
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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    Quote Originally Posted by bilkiss View Post
    It comes in Bukhaari that ''ALLAHS CURSE IN ON THE WOMAN WHO VISITS A GRAVEYARD''


    Proof please.

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    Re: women visiting graveyards?


    Permissibility of women visiting graves


    Our extended family seem to de divided on the issue of women visiting graves. Some say it is perfectly okay and do so and some say it is not permitted and do not visit graves. Please let me know if it is permissible for women to visit graves.

    Paying visits by Muslim men to cemeteries is a practice of the sunnah, and it reminds one of his destiny so that he may strive for it. As the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

    "I [once] had forbid you from visiting graves, [and I now enjoin] you to do so, so that the visit may serve as a beneficial reminder." (related by Muslim and others)

    and in the version of al-Haakim:

    "… for [such visits] soften the heart, bring tears to the eyes, and serve as a reminder of the Hereafter, [but be careful] not to speak forbidden expressions [i.e. while visiting]."
    (Sahih al-Jaami' 4584)

    Concerning visits to cemeteries by women, scholars have varied opinions on this issue:

    it is allowed or preferred and their case is similar to that of men

    it is makrooh (reprehensible), which is the opinion of jumhoor ul-'ulemaa' (the majority of the scholars)

    it is forbidden, this one probably being the strongest opinion, as indicated by al-hadith al-sahih in which the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

    "Allaah has cursed women who frequent graves,"
    related by Ahmed and Tirmidhi and Ibn Maajah and in one version,

    "Allaah has cursed women who visit graves and those who build mosques and place lights upon them." (related by Abu Dawood, al-Tirmidhi, al-Nisaa'i and al-Haakim)

    This condemnation would warrant the validity of the argument against women visiting cemeteries as the lawmaker (i.e. Allaah) would not condemn something that is permissible or reprehensible—only that which is forbidden completely.

    Regarding what would be the reason for this condemnation, the scholars have cited two main arguments:

    Firstly, that women for the most part are emotionally weaker in accepting calamities and perhaps being in sight of her dear one's graves may break into wailing and loud weeping, which would be detrimental to her religious character and harmful for her body as well.

    Secondly, cemeteries are oftentimes isolated places which may not be safe for someone being alone, possibly exposing a woman to people of corrupt or loose moral character.

    In summary, the rationale behind this prohibition is that women are often not as strong emotionally in the face of calamities, and not visiting graves prevents them from the trial and from being exposed to unnecessary fitnah.

    Allaah the Most Knowledgeable knows what is most correct and best.

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    "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

    The Prophet said:

    "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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    Narrated 'Abdullah:

    The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


    "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

    By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

    [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]


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    Re: women visiting graveyards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shedy View Post


    Proof please.
    Check Asiya's post.. That should be proof enough.. If not, then read Bukhari for yourself..


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